The left side (toward driver side) was bolted behind the Brake-Push-Valve cover. Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Replies Sort. See Group 42 of the applicable workshop manual. The 2nd air leak - brake valve. Once the knobs were out. Then build up air to see if it leaks out of the valve. New valve is an easy replacement but a little tight getting the air lines off/on. I now try to trim them back almost to the correct size. http://epi.hbsna.com/products/product.asp?msi=0&sid=9300A9C013C54840A48D8FE8942EDE24&pf_id=KN20619&dept_id=40 Replaced mine awhile back... February 15, 2015 in HDT, 2004 Volvo with Meritor/Wabco Valve (page 21). RELAY VALVE LEAKS AT EXHAUST PORT WITH ALL BRAKES RELEASED Check seal in spring brake for back flow of spring “hold-off” pressure through service port to open exhaust on valve. When the valve is in all is OK - no air leaks out. Relay emergency valves were used on pre-121 trailers. If the parking brake is off and a diaphragm is leaking you can get feedback to the foot valve. The first system is the emergency system. Den My next action is cut some open and learn the inside. Yes Carl, I will make pics of the mistakes I will probably make. No need to shut it off in gear. When you pull the red knob it releases the air that was holding the spring brake off, applying the spring brake. Th... Had to reply to this one . I had this problem on a 2000 Reflection . I found the bracket on the transmission that holds the parking brake "works" h... Charlie, I believe you're correct, he would have to manually hold in the yellow button for a bit. FREE Shipping by Amazon. Share this post. Found inside – Page 10X P. STEERING A / C BRAKE TYPE : DRUM / DRUM DISC / DRUM DISC / DISC VEHICLE ... parking brake , fan belt , radiator , power steering belt , air filter ... Pasted as rich text. when you apply the service brake air exhaust at what I think is his Tractor protection valve. The second air leak was coming from the quick release valve for both front brakes. All torx screws except phillips on the air valve if you have to reuse the bracket. Hey Randy. Please document the dash removal because I've got to change my valve soon. I had a Doge Diesel that used a vacuum pump (for the dash vents, heater controls) on the power steering shaft that the seals went bad. The Problem: Reasons for the Valve to Leak. I don't know why the difference in price since they are both Volvo centers. There was extensive generator work done where it was removed and replaced at least twice, maybe the boned something up in the gen bay. Later this summer I had to replace an air line to my pass side brake can, but still I have the air leak. The strip must be removed starting from the right or you will break off the hook holding the left side. Found inside – Page 8-6EMERGENCY APPLICATION (Trailer Air System charged to normal operating ... line to atmosphere will cause the emergency portion of the Relay Emergency Valve ... The way the parking brake system works on most trucks is there are springs in the air chambers on the rear axle or axles of the truck that apply the parking brakes. The new PV-D parking brake valve features high quality components including industrial springs for lasting compression, buna n o-rings for a leak-proof seal, and standard size fittings utilizing a tapered pipe thread which attaches easily to most other fittings. I believe that they discharge outside the truck cab just in case anything, oil, water, dirt that may get into the air system (bad compressor rings) or the noise (released air) is mitigated. The double check valve prevents a service and emergency brake application from occurring simultaneously. noteven I have four air leaks location behind the dash. YES → Replace the parking brake air valve and air lines as necessary. ABS Combo Brake Valve Leaking Air Discussion in 'Volvo Forum' started by tmslogistics, Oct 1, 2016. Found inside – Page 11See Leak - down test is better than a standard compression test because many ... and apply the parking brake to help keep the engine from turning over . When you Started Sunday at 04:46 AM, By Found inside – Page 490If a leak exists with cap bolts at recommended torque , dress down cap to ... Oil passage leak in parking brake bracket ( possibly missing plug ) Air check ... So no air is applied to the lock port to leak when parking brake is on. If pipe dope is used on fittings, use it sparingly. Don't know if it is rebuildable yet or not or if I even would want to try. See Group 42 of the applicable workshop manual. The air compressor seems ok, starts pumping up immediately but there are air leaks that sound like are coming from the brake pedal manifold and also at the service brake (yellow) knob. Emergency Stopping Performance and Distance: 49CFR571.121 .S5.7.1 The emergency brakes must perform to a specific stopping distance requirement. There should be a manufacturer and part number on the valve. Oherwise you would not be able to get the spring brakes to release unless you have to hold the valve in to build pressure ?? RELAY VALVE LEAKS AT EXHAUST PORT WITH ALL BRAKES RELEASED Check seal in spring brake for back flow of spring “hold-off” pressure through service port to open exhaust on valve. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Problem #8 Air Leak at the Exhaust Port of Park Control … It might work better to also find a small socket with an ID to clear the pin, to use as a spacer between the knob body and the pliers lower jaw, to give the roll pin a place to push out before it hits the jaw. There will be an initial pressure drop as air flows into the parking brake lines, but once that stabilizes the pressure must not … Of course, if the air is gone the spring brakes will hold the truck in position. Inspect the air line from the parking brake air valve to the air brake chamber. Not the dash valve. Posted August 30, 2013. Now, I need to order some O ring/collar and practice. Air Leak in Parking System Relay. Was hoping that I could obtain the switch first. Padraic, ), I found that the check valve for the front Service glad hand had debris under the diaphragm and the Air Brake Protection Valve had a crack in the rubber disc on top that acts like a check valve. Started March 12, 2018, By If it leaks when the brake is locked, I would look at the valve, as Aaron said. This is a repair/replacement I want to do myself. (Just an idea on my part though). Not sure I understand??? iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? 1. The air compressor is typically cooled by the engine coolant system and lubricated by the engine oil supply. DOUBLE CHECK VALVE LEAKS Replace. Replace #15 Spring Parking Brake. Best of all it's totally FREE! Here's an image from Rex's very fine parts document on Monacoers. It says the instrument panel has to come out. Wife (and I) were not to happy with that!!!! After some troubleshooting and talking to Suprman ( Thanks Will! The air leak went away as I released and applied the valves but I'm assuming this is the beginning of a problem that is going to … Only 2 left in stock - order soon. Mudman78, Oct 1, 2016. Is this a job doable in a campground with standard tools or should I wait until I get back to my shop in April? Trailer trolley unit, 3. The parking brake system applies and releases the parking brakes when you use the parking brake control. The purpose of this valve is to use air pressure from the brake pedal to open the relay valve. They are not real expensive, I think I paid about $40 for the valve at Total Truck Parts. Found inside – Page 3-155TREADLE VALVE AND BRAKE CONTROLS TROUBLESHOOTING (CONT) MALFUNCTION TEST OR ... and PARKING BRAKE valve for air leaks. a If a component is leaking air, ... Found inside – Page 602Released Applied Figure 28.16 Air brake actuator and slack adjuster (Bendix ... by the hand control valve for the purpose of secondary or emergency braking, ... Anyway, I asked Dave to send me one UPS. As they say "childern do not try tis at home" but since I had done this a couple times in a past life it seemd ok this time for a move of about 10 feet. (system park). When the parking valve (yellow knob) is pulled out to park position air constantly flows out of the end of the yellow line until the tank is empty. Found inside – Page 141Troubleshooting Chart for Air - Over - Hydraulic Brake System . ... Leaking compressor discharge valves . ... Parking brake drags and overheats . It will help avoid going around in circles caused by ordering the wrong part to begin with. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. You need to remove the fuse box cover (screws accessed through drink holder) then the two panels underneath so you can remove the horizontal strip (wood grain on mine) hiding the screws. CONTROL VALVE PLUNGER! I tore enough of the dash apart to see it and it appears I have decent room to change it but I could not see any number on the part. It would be nice to get one on the spot local but I may need to use Fed-X or UPS from Tampa. Might be pretty easy and a lot less expensive. When the parking valve (yellow knob) is pulled out to park position air constantly flows out of the end of the yellow line until the tank is empty. 3. Dang it! Found inside – Page 48LEAKDOWN TESTER N 19 DISC BRAKE TROUBLESHOOTING Disc brake fluid leakage ... Air leaking through the exhaust pipe indicates a leaking exhaust valve . b . Den Obviously I can't leave the cab of the truck with the engine running - I must shut down, put it in low gear and chock the wheels to keep it from rolling. This is due to the collapse of the centre seal in the spring brake booster that separates the air pressure in the rear spring chamber from that of the service chamber. Wonder if anyone knows a good part number for this valve. Thanks, I have another thread on the T push in connector replacement (that service the air brake gauge) air leak. The way the parking brake system works on most trucks is there are springs in the air chambers on the rear axle or axles of the truck that apply the parking brakes. This is the system that releases the parking brake and holds some reserve air to stop you if there is a leak. I jumped into the drivers seat and released the park brake and selected 3rd and eased out the clutch and we started out of the driveway about .....10 feet.... and then I felt the parking starting to reset while in the backgroung I heard air exhausting. from the dash valve. As it turned out the leak is from a yellow line that comes from under the dash and "opens" inside a sheath under the driver floorboard. On the volvo the driver's right side kick panel would need to come off, not sure about anything else. It will fully release and the bus moves ok, but I"m stumped. Found insideA leaking vacuum check valve would cause no vacuum reserve when the engine is ... Air in the brake fluid would not prevent the parking brake from releasing. Brake standards are controlled by the Department of Transportation (DOT) under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, or FMVSS, 121. Found inside – Page 2-6Defective clutch cutoff Repair or replace clutch cutvalve off valve ( para 8–14 ) ... Parking Brake Does Not Hold Loader Probable cause Possible remedy Brake ... Randy; Haven't replaced one in the Volvo, but did change the one in the Mack Dump I drive part time. Appears to be similar except that two valves a... That line may have a new nickname before you are finished. Apply the parking brakes by pulling out the dash-mounted park brake knob. Problem #5 Air Leak at Exhaust Port of Quick Release Valve in Rear Axle Tractor with Service and Parking Brakes Released. Air gauge Tee, 4. Found inside – Page 40910 Maxibrake air brake chamber ( sectional view ) LLOCH PIN HOLE MGM spring - type parking brake system ... Leaking application valves or check valve . 5. In all cases, however, it simply functions as a pressure regulator. Airbrakes won't release. Going from memory my truck is not here. Buy the part and avoid Volvo hourly rate. This showes me replacing the parking brake air valve in my rv due to an air leak. It is a safety feature on air brake models so that if your air lines lose pressure, your parking brake goes on and stops you. Mudman78, Oct 1, 2016 #4 + Quote Reply. Hi guys, attached is my truck air valve with the air leak at the supply line. Randy, I have no knowledge or experience with this valve. From your description, I'm assuming that the compressor can out pace the leak ? Oherwise... The IR-2 will exhaust all air in the spring brake chambers, applying the spring brakes. This is not surprising because we have over a 112,000 miles on the coach. Then watch the air supply (tank) gauge. Once I had about 100 psi I released to brake again, but again, I was losing pressure fast. Paul - could you PM me a phone number? Since it seems like Randy has been able to solve his parking air brake problem of losing air during parking brake application so, perhaps my inverse problem of losing air during parking release might be of some interest to keep in the back of our memory banks for futurte ref. I have done the obvious things like checking for broken air lines and tightening all the fitting. Axle differential switch. When the foot valve is at rest, no service air flows to the brake chambers, and the brakes at each wheel are released (assuming the parking/emergency system is not activated). Parking brake valves can leak and release air due to different reasons. Found inside – Page 1148... a slight leak , caused by the fact that the diaphragm in the valve did not open sufficiently to allow the parking brake system to release all of the air ... After the bride left the truck I got out and noted the air was exhausting out of the main drive axles control mounted above the power divider. Oh the Freightshaker knobs screw on no roll pins so really easy for me with knobs. Found inside – Page 9-87( 6 ) Push in SYSTEM PARK valve , TRAILER AIR SUPPLY , and TRACTOR PARKING ... ( 9 ) If brake valve does not function as described above , replace valve . We have replace the parking brake valve. The QR-1C™ valve is generally mounted on the axle and serves two spring brake actuators. Where would be the best place/price to get a replacement? This is the system that releases the parking brake and holds some reserve air to stop you if there is a leak. Since we had yet to enter the street I recycled the yellow knob and noted that the system was starting to build up pressure from it's fall of 50 psi. AnythingTruck.com is a distributor of name-brand air brake parts. YES → Replace the parking brake air valve and air lines as necessary. Found insideThe parking brake mechanism was intact and operational and was in the ... However , this possibility is also rather remote in that a leaking air valve is ... Correct. This is a link to some common system layouts that might help. They are generic in nature. https://www.google.com/search?q=Air+over+Hydraul... 3. But, if I engage the parking brake I will lose my air. Modulates spring brake actuator application should a failure occur in the primary service brake system. <==== Mine is doing the same but it is the red knob instead. Assessing Air Brake System Air Leakage (BW2327 - CD) WHEELS CHOCKED, FULL PRESSURE, TRACTOR PARKING BRAKES RELEASED (YELLOW BUTTON IN) & TRAILER CHARGED (RED BUTTON IN) þ OK þ Not OK 1. The Volvo dealer part clerk was no help, they didn't stock any T connectors. Once the service brake pressure is equal to the spring pressure no exhaust flows out of the service exhaust port. Problem – Leaks at exhaust port with all brakes released Answer – Remove service line from spring brake to see if air is leaking from service port if so replace the spring brake, check inlet valve in relay valve for leak, check reservoir side of valve for contamination – repair or replace. So the push-in connector can be "fix", great. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more! That is to see how they come apart. After a few obvious screws out, right half of the dash was loose. Any air leaks or a compromised / failed booster cylinder would directly result in a loose of park brake holding power. Holy Cow! When the parking brake button is pressed the air leaks from inside dash. It is located behind the same front shield under the bumper, but on the drivers side. Trailer trolley unit, 3. NO → Go to step 9. I found the links (Google found more externally) and the part numbers, thanks. The trailer air supply should shut air off to the trailer. The hood will need to be opened and the front bumper should be flipped forward. Hardest part was getting the roll pins out of the knobs. The valve is supposed to release air when you pull the knob and not release air when you push on it. Apply the parking brake. Some claim OEM and some are aftermarket. Hey Randy. Found inside – Page 53-13TASK 53 MAIN LANDING GEAR PARKING BRAKE TM 55-1520-237-23-5 VALVE - REPAIR ... Submerge valve body and apply 100 psi air pressure to port D (Figure 53-6). volvo puts their parts in very expensive packaging. That will be new to me. Found inside – Page 3-6Check for loose tractor-to-trailer hose connections and for air leaks. Tighten leaking or loose tractor-to-trailer hose connections. 20. PARKING BRAKE DOES ... 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